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[Wayne8Rooney]

I think it's good that we have gotten Croatia, that way we will be able to compare the new managers team with Mclaren's team, to see how far we have progressed.

[whu79]

Wayne8Rooney Wrote:I think it's good that we have gotten Croatia, that way we will be able to compare the new managers team with Mclaren's team, to see how far we have progressed.

Great point.

[huzup]

not really
think about it
Whats the chance of any of the back 5 (From Carson, M. Richards, Campbell, Lescott and W.Bridge) playing or even being in contention for a place for the next Croatia game.
McClaren's failure was more than just the Croatia game - he took England one step backwards - I'm pretty sure if Terry and Rio, or even just one of them had played it would have been different.
If the next manager qualifies for 2010 SA then compare that to McClaren.
McClaren was forced to pick shit for this game, the chances of the next manager being in the same position is highly unlikely.

[jane03]

If Mourinho gets the job you won't believe your eyes from the progress!!

[hassan134]

Jane uve been online all day, aren't u tired??

[jane03]

hassan134 Wrote:Jane uve been online all day, aren't u tired??

Actually I just had my night bath and I am going to bed cuz I have lab tomorrow!But I know why you are asking hassan!You want me to leave!:lol:Ok I get that so I'm going!

[whu79]

I guess that's what I was thinking--I have trouble separating manager from team, because in my eyes they are one and the same. Management chooses teams and management, well, manages teams. Management creates the team, is the team, ought to eat sleep & breathe the team.

Obviously players are the ones who hit the pitch and do the hardest work, but every generation of footballers brings talent comparable to the previous. There will always be strong strikers, strong midfielders, etc. So future managers will have similar pools to select from as past managers--the names and styles may be different and some more memorable than others, but a good footballer is a good footballer. How a new manager arranges his team and handles them will, I think, signify the improvement of the team as a whole. Players and manager.

That said: I'm talking about an ideal situation. When you have players out on injury or suspension you have to make tough choices. For the last Croatia match, I think McClaren made poor choices even then (and there is at least one player I think he ought to have considered long ago and didn't)--BUT he was definitely limited by the challenges the injury situation presented. So there's a caveat to my opinions above.

[hassan134]

jane03 Wrote:

hassan134 Wrote:Jane uve been online all day, aren't u tired??

Actually I just had my night bath and I am going to bed cuz I have lab tomorrow!But I know why you are asking hassan!You want me to leave!:lol:Ok I get that so I'm going!

Who cares??? JK

[jane03]

hassan134 Wrote:

jane03 Wrote:

hassan134 Wrote:Jane uve been online all day, aren't u tired??

Actually I just had my night bath and I am going to bed cuz I have lab tomorrow!But I know why you are asking hassan!You want me to leave!:lol:Ok I get that so I'm going!

Who cares??? JK

OK!!:lol:Bye cu tomorrow guys!

[rfopl]

great games away te us