the final announcement on the Fair Play League is tomorrow.

If england have overtaken Norway in the last few weeks then we are straight into the UEFA Cup.

More likely, we will be one of seven in a draw which takes place next week. Two of these 7 will be given places. So at worst, we have a 2 in 7 chance of Europe.

in the uefa cup through the back door....tut tut

To be honest, i don't think we will overtake Norway, i remember seeing the table a few weeks back.

But who knows..

I dont think it matters how you get into the UEFA Cup, if you get into it then you deserve to

Yeah I aint saying that, City fans don't care and im sure any other club aren't bothered

If they get in they get in. At the end of the day Europe is where clubs want to be.

England have to finish top of the fair play league which they cant now, Norway will get the ONE automatic place, there are two other places which is down to a draw what nation gets the places, and then as previously stated the extra place goes to the best placed team in fair play league who not already in Europe and considering we bottom we got no hope.

Uefa Fair Play League
1 NOR
2 ENG
3 SWE
4 DEN
5 GER
6 FIN
7 ESP
8 EST
9 FRA
10 FRO

Premier League Fair Play League

1 MAN UTD
2 SPURS
3 LIVERPOOL
4 EVERTON
5 ARSENAL
6 MAN CITY
7 FULHAM
8 POMPEY
9 WEST HAM
10 WIGAN
11 READING
12 SUNDERLAND
13 VILLA
14 BRUM
15 NEWCASTLE
16 CHELSEA
17 BOLTON
18 DERBY
19 M'BORO
20 ROVERS

Was talking about this the other day with a few fellow Rovers fans.

We finished bottom since 2004 when we finished 15th. lol Another great performance from Rovers in the fair play league.

Back to you and City Dan.. have a look for yourself mate.

Chelsea are pretty far down aswell, i didnt realise Derby and Boro were that bad

This post was last modified: 05-09-2008 02:25 AM by manutdfc13.

yeah its how you play that matters being a goody good side will get you nowhere look at fulham they almost made it...and so your gonna tell me that man city or fulham will play better than everton or tottenham ...dont think so there both shite

You are always going to be further down the table if you are a weaker side. Because if teams dominate you, they have more possession, more attacking, you do more defending and commit more fouls.
If your team is full of thugs like Chelsea you will also be far down the list.
Blackburn have been known to kick the better teams of the park, and it is something Wenger always complains about. Thats gonna land you some way down the table too.
And Man Utd are simply top because referees are scared of Alex Ferguson. Call that cheating or genius... I can't differentiate between the two.

bolton have only one man to blame, kevin davies!!!